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Speak!

Anyone know how to pronounce it? Is it "rock-shop" or "roik-sop"? Kinitawowi July 6, 2005 17:46 (UTC)

I was about to ask the same question! Dalf | Talk 08:55, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's roik-sop :) NuclearFunk 14:02, 11 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say it's possible to write it in English. Written in the IPA, I pronounced it ['røykˌsop:] (see any logic ?-) and someone from Norway said it was correct. Anyway, I'm not from Norway, so anyone who is, please correct. --TuukkaH 20:04:59, 2005-09-11 (UTC)

I'm Norwegian. Just had to say that TuukkaH is right about the pronounciation... And just if anyone wonders it's then like roik-sopp (not soap), if that says anything at all... --Christie 12:00, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I am from Oslo, Norway. It is pronounced properly as "rewik-salt" here in Norway, or the closest it can be in English. 213.218.228.160 19:09, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am not Norwegian, but it is my understanding that the Ø-Y Diphthong (assuming you can spell the group's name Røyksopp) is pronounced like the English word buoy (that is, with two syllables as "boo-ee" in the US, not with one syllable like the word boy as I believe it is traditionally pronounced in the UK). So I guess that makes the pronunciation of the first part closest to what the above user wrote. Also, I believe most consonants are pronounced as in English, with some exceptions. I don't think the "pp" is one of those, so should it just be pronounced as a "p"? I'm not sure of the pronunciation of that second "o" though, but my best guess would be like "sawp". --Polecat89 00:32, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am not Norwegian either, but from the little Norwegian I know, <ø> is identical to the German <ö> and lacks an English equivalent (same for Norwegian <y> and <u> which are close to the German <ü>). I doubt that <øy> would be pronounced [ui] if there's any logic behind this language at all (I'd expect <øy> to be pronounced the way it's written -- i.e. [øy] or, sloppily, [øe]). Enough with the guesswork, though. Could someone fluent in Norwegian and IPA-savvy check the proper pronunciation? -- 91.0.108.188 18:00, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am also not Norwegian, but I do know German. If <ø> is identical to the German <ö> then it should be pronounced as though it were followed by the letter 'e'. Just think of some names you may have seen, such as Matt Groening. That name could also be spelled as 'Gröning, and should be pronounced similarly to 'grairning'. That's the best I can do. Sorry if I'm rambling. sugarfish 03:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The IPA listed is good now. I partially agree with the Osloenser above — I think "rewik-sop" is just about as good as it gets. For the two P's: They shorten the wowel (bal=b'al or "baal", ball=ba'l or "ball"). If that made any sense at all. 82.235.98.252 (talk) 21:09, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Might we be able to get an audio file from a native speaker? Xenoce (talk) 02:15, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Audio file with correct pronounciation can be found here, in two different regional dialects. The top most example is how someone from Tromsø would pronounce it. Conscientiouspirate (talk) 10:11, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Commission

"The song 'Eple' was commissioned by Apple Computer"

Did Apple actually commission the song, or only license it?

As it predates OS X 10.3 by a couple years (the single came out in 2001, while OS X 10.3 was released in 2003), and the opening tunes for all other versions of OS X were licenses of pre-existing songs, I would venture to say that it's more likely to have been licensed. Either way, it's an appropriate track; 'eple' means 'apple' in Norwegian... --Codeman38 23:55, 3 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Popularity

I clearly remember the show 'Click Online' on BBC World has Eple playing on the background when new sites where being showcased. In one episode, a person wrote in asking what the song was and the woman spoke a bit about Eple and Röyksopp. IS there someway anyone can incorporate this as it introduced Röyksopp to a much broader and International base [including this fan from India]. Heru Morna 12:48, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I was just reading this article, after viewing the video for What Else Is There? It seems like, at least in America, Royksopp is the band with the catchy songs in adverts and what not, that nobody really knows who they are. Like, the Geico ad, I had no idea that was a Royksopp song used in there. Violet yoshi 12:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Only This Moment

There's a reference to the video for Only This Moment being heavily based on the World Wars. A google search for "Royksopp" and "World War" yeilded few results. None of which had any direct evidence indicating that it definitly was based on WWII protests. Neither did they even offer speculation as to why they're so certain it's based on WWI. With no direct quote from Royksopp that i can find, the video's inspiration is sort of up in the air. But i'm arguing that the video is based around the May 1968 protests in France. Much of the footage is aged in a way typical of any 60's color film. The video is clearly taking place in France as seen from the manner of dress, locations etc... but i don't recall any notable protests in France during world war I or II. Another point to my argument's favour is the video's closing scene: protesters dissapearing one by one leaving the sole leader on the podium alone. To me this is a clear comment on the 1968 protest's sudden vanishing act. Either way, both arguments are questionable and merly speculation. But does wikipedia lend itself to this? If it doesn't we should probably remove the WW note altogther. If it does, i'd reccomend putting any other valid defendable theories alongside it. --Underdog000 07:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I say add your theory. I can see that both points are valid. I will try to search in Norwegian, to see if there is any info there. NuclearFunk 08:53, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Remixed Tracks

Anyone Know where to get these Remix'd tracks, i'm really intrested in listening to them?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Systmatik (talk • contribs).

Most times you can locate them with a simple internet search...also, you can usually find it on www.gracenote.com. But then you have to go find the CD and buy it. :o) tiZom_(2¢) 04:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rainbow Stylin

Anyone know what album this song is off? its not mentioned on any of the tracklists. It was a big hit for Royksopp... just curious

-Levi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.68.86 (talk) 22:34, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Current status

Has anyone seen any information on the current status of Röyksopp? Are they still together? Is it known if they're working on new material? --ShadowCode 15:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, they are still together. They performed at Kaos in Tromsø recently, it was not announced in advance. This was the second time they did an "unoficcial" gig in Tromsø. (http://www.tromsoby.no/article.php/500_konsert/2006082810044053.html)

Anyone have any newer update about what they're up to? I can't find anything..any chance of album 3?? 67.81.101.107 00:58, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They played two of their new songs (I Wanna Know, Korene) at a live in Norway in October 2007, someone may check it out on youtube, and then update something here. --137.189.20.143 02:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

'Back To Mine'

It is my understanding that the 'Back To Mine' series of compact discs are actually tunes selected by the artist concerned and not 'cover versions' as stated in the article. The songs on these albums are intended to reflect what that artist might listen to at home after a night out. The name says it all, and is a typically British expression. In fact, on Amazon.com, the artist responsible for each song is clearly listed alongside the song title! I just want to get some agreement before I change the copy to reflect this. :) sugarfish 03:55, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

-I have a few of these albums (although not the Royksopp one) and believe you're correct, It's just a DJ mix of tracks they like. I'd assume that they haven't added any production either since that would defeat the point of the series. The one review I've seen of the disc also doesn't mention anything like that. 218.43.15.243 12:27, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You tube link removal

1 link removed - No indication from clip information/uploader profile that uploader has right to footage concerned or is the connected with the production entity responsible for it. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You Tube link removal

1 link removed - Advert - No indication from clip infromation/uploader profile that uploader has rights to footage concerned or is connected with the production entity responsible for it. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:00, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Leave the YouTube clips alone... If you can see it in a video it's at least as valid as some publication making claims. Leopold Stotch (talk) 06:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Continental Radio

Their song "What Else Is There" is playing on the Continental Airlines ambient channel :)

Not sure if this is relevant for wiki but if I were a little known band I'd have it on my wiki! —Preceding unsigned comment added by SirParadox (talk • contribs) 00:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2008 album?

Hey, I'm new to Wikipedia...I've never edited pages before, so I apologize if I mess this page up. o.o But seriously, what happened about their third album being released? I remember seeing around the beginning of 2008 that they were going to release it in mid-2008, then late 2008, with several sources citing it. Now there's no word about their new album, at all! What is happening? Has anyone actually never heard word from them? And why has Röyksopp stayed quiet for so long? I love them to bits and I regardless of what goes on, I just want to clear everything up. Thanks in advanced! - CherryTruck

This is not the place to ask questions. This talk page is for discussing the article, not the band. -- Scjessey (talk) 21:29, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies. This was the only place where I heard about the third album that cited sources, and the removal of that information lead me into great confusion. I did find one page though, posted not too long ago, saying that the new album was supposed to be released in March 2008 but it's gone way pass October 2008 and still no word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CherryTruck (talk • contribs) 21:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe now the only way to confirm is to have someone contact the EMI Norway as even the 2 fansites (royksopp.net and royksoppforums.org) of Royksopp are down. We are in an information blackout.--203.218.118.234 (talk) 10:41, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Advertisements section

This section of the article is getting fairly large. I was wondering if it would be worthwhile moving it off into a separate article? Prose isn't generally the best form for trivia like that, either. Alexhixon (talk) 09:10, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First, it needs to be renamed to "Use in media" which I thought I did a couple months ago and also now every instance of a use of a song in a program doesn't need to be mention as it's not notable. Also, it can also be mention on the song's article. ♫ Douglasr007 (talk) 15:05, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. I'll probably rename the section, leave the more notable uses in media in there, and move the rest out to track/album articles. How's that sound? Alexhixon (talk) 10:57, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fine to me. ♫ Douglasr007 (talk) 17:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Junior Senior ?

To be honest, it looks like an obvious reference to the danish duo; is it true by any means ? 193.190.211.20 (talk) 18:36, 29 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Röyksopp/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 21:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: none found.

Linkrot: Two found and tagged.[1] Jezhotwells (talk) 21:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Checking against GA criteria

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
The two met when Berge was 12 and Brundtland was 13, and the two began playing music together due to a shared interest in electronic music. Try rephrasing to avoid repetitious use of "music". Y

Many of Röyksopp's singles soon were licensed for movie appearances. A little vague and could be better phrased. Done

The song is currently available for free streaming on the band's website. Time based, better to just mention release date.

The band later released "Tricky Tricky" stems as part of a remix competition and the winning entries were released on October 27, 2009. Is "Tricky Tricky" another song from the album, please make clear. Done
~~Still not clear, is Tricky Tricky another album?~~

''Junior was a success around the world. The album peaked at number one in Norway, the band's third consecutive album to do so.[15] The album also peaked at number 21 on the UK Albums Chart.[16] In addition, the album also charted on many Billboard charts, including the Billboard 200 – the first Röyksopp album to do so – where it peaked at number 126.[27] The album also peaked at number 4 on the Top Electronic Albums chart and number 3 on the Top Heatseekers chart Six uses of "album" in a few lines. Please rephrase.Y

There, the album peaked at number one, the band's fourth consecutive album to do so. Again. Y

~~The duo has also expressed their enjoyment for remixing songs.~~ ~~Poor phrasing.~~Y

Whenever people approach us for a remix it's very nice; being approached by Roots Manuva, The Streets, and even Peter Gabriel is quite fun."[5] The band was also approached by Britney Spears for a remix, but had to turn down the offer due to scheduling conflicts.[" Repetitious use of "approach". Y

In addition to sales success, Röyksopp has managed to garner good critical reception from many music critics. Clunky, rephrase. Y

~~Please copy-edit through. Enlist the help of an editor experienced in good plain English.~~ Done

~~Remove any links to other articles that are used in the text from the See also section.~~ Y

The popularity of the duo's music was boosted by several graphically experimental music videos, many of which were put into heavy rotation by MTV.[18] The music video for "Remind Me", featuring an infographic-styled video by French company H5, won the 2002 MTV Europe Music Award for best music video.[19][11] In this same event the duo was nominated in three more categories: "Best Nordic Act", "Best New Artist" and "Best Dance Act", but only won the award for best video.[19] The duo performed the song "Poor Leno" at the event.[20] One year later the duo received a nomination for "Best Group" at the Brit Awards.[21], excessive use of "the duo" Y

~~This still needs a thorough copy-edit, eliminating sudden changes of tense, and reworking stilted prose. Above all good plain English should be employed.~~

The lead still needs to summarise the whole article, please read WP:LEAD. Not done

Phrases such as Röyksopp is known for their elaborate ... need rewriting in plain English. It seems that the copy-editing was much help after all. The sentence structure is poor, sentences are almost randomly thrown together.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
~~Two dead links found and tagged.~~ Y

Other sources look reliable enough.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
In addition to sales success, Röyksopp has managed to garner good critical reception from many music critics. Does everybody love them? Y
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
~~See above, has there been no negative coverage?~~
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
OK, there is a lot to fix. If it can be done in seven days, it will pass, otherwise it will fail. On Hold. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article still needs thorough copy-editing, you may be able to get help either at some of the projects or the WP:Guild of copyeditors. Remains on hold. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just the lead, which still does not fully summarise the article. Jezhotwells (talk) 12:48, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it is past seven days and the artcile still does not satisfy the reasonably good prose criterion, also the lead needs to fully summarise the article. I shall not be listing this at this time. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:06, 1 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've started work on the page to get it up to snuff!--Gen. Quon (talk) 03:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I believe I've fixed all of the prose problems you've pointed out. I've fixed the two instances of linkrot and added new citations, and I've added a section under critical reception about negative comments (but believe me, it was hard to find some. The critics love them). I've also combed through and fixed/tweaked some more prose stuff. What do you think now?--Gen. Quon (talk) 17:42, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I believe everything has been fixed now, except the lead and the copy/editing. I applied for help on the Copy Editors/Requests page, so hopefully, they'll help out. I'll start to work on the lead.--Gen. Quon (talk) 23:05, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Röyksopp/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
Almost all issues from GA1 have been fixed and appropriately striked-out. The only one that still seems slightly clumsy is the line in the Live Performance section: "Röyksopp is known for its elaborate concert performances". The is-are has become is-its which is better. The intention of the sentence is clear, even though grammar pedants will argue this one forever. WP:GAC doesn't require perfect prose, it requires reasonably well written prose. If it ever goes for WP:FAC, someone else can worry about this sentences under §1(a) of WP:FACR. Not me though. Passed.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
No change from GA1 on WP:OR and WP:RS criteria. §2(a) has one small problem: the link to Kotaku looks broken to the link checker I'm using, but that's more due to the new and utterly broken redesign of all Gawker Media websites. Curse them. Curse them to hell.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
Since GA1, the lack of critical reviews has been addressed.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
Lack of critical reviews has been resolved with the Pitchfork links since GA1.
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
Blissfully vandalism and edit war free!
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Images are all free and on Wikimedia Commons! Captions are fine.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
As I've said: the mostly stylistic issues that were raised in GA1 have been resolved. As someone who is an electronic music fan (this Good Article review was brought to you with the help of Daft Punk, The Cinematic Orchestra and The Chemical Brothers), I knew of Röyksopp and had heard some of their tracks (I'd seen the video for Remind Me and heard other tracks on adverts etc.) but didn't know anything about the band, this was informative and readable. Good article.

Awesome news! Thanks!--Gen. Quon (talk) 19:59, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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